Jacob Lowe

Become a 10x Engineer by Avoiding Burnout

by Jacob Lowe on

Do not burn yourself out.

Sitting at my desk, I had an overwhelming feeling doing too much but also getting nothing done. I would look back at my time and think I did a lot of things, but I just do not recollect any of them. It’s like my body was on autopilot and my mind was taking a nap.

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  • hey they're just working cool
  • before I started I just want to say
  • thanks to JSLA for organizing this I
  • mean these events are tremendous and
  • there's a lot of work that goes into
  • organizing an event like this can get
  • around a little pause for JSLA in
  • general and actually I want to say it
  • thanks to Google as well this is a you
  • know tremendous venue with the venue
  • like this usually the tickets sell out
  • really quickly and that's because they
  • have a lot of pull here at Google of
  • course the speakers do you have a pull
  • as well but I'm also sorry to let you
  • know that for us isn't going to be
  • speaking tonight but yeah but I'm here
  • to talk to you today about something
  • that you know a lot of people have been
  • wondering about lately and that's how
  • not to burn yourself out sometimes
  • there's some large expectations that is
  • put on us as engineers they kind of push
  • us to like a mental edge whether we're
  • supposed to be deity like engineers that
  • are TEDx engineers or you know we need
  • to learn how to do algebraic expressions
  • before the next meeting but it sometimes
  • it's hard to balance on that edge so
  • many of Jacob blow i'm JC b LW across
  • the web and you know I wrote a talk
  • about this because I got burnt out I got
  • burned out multiple times before but
  • just recently got burnt out and I'm kind
  • of on a sabbatical right now which has
  • actually been kind of great because it
  • allows me to like think about these
  • types of things and I also used to work
  • at a company called headspace which you
  • know it's supposed to help with well it
  • does help with things like stress
  • burnout and whatnot but things have been
  • kind of weird lately so I mean so burned
  • out just in case you know y'all haven't
  • experienced it or really know what it is
  • it's just to ruin your health and this
  • is mostly done through overwork just
  • overworking yourself and mental health
  • is like super important and there's a
  • lot of things you can do to you know
  • help your mental health and if you could
  • take a little bit of time during each
  • day to you know support your mental
  • health like I would do it like it's
  • totally worth it
  • and I want to say that like there's like
  • this stigma around you know mental
  • health being you know mental health
  • issues like burnout or anxiety or
  • depression being people that are weak
  • you know it's definitely not that you
  • know I have to say like I've
  • accomplished some things in my life that
  • I feel like I had to be pretty
  • disciplined about and I still run into
  • things like burnout and I still run into
  • things like anxiety and depression so I
  • don't know if you guys get the luxury to
  • work at a company that has these things
  • called no meetings blocks but they're
  • actually fantastic and if you don't work
  • at a company after listening this talk
  • you should probably ask for no meetings
  • blocks but this is actually a fantastic
  • time to kind of just reset and you know
  • it's not an implicitly say like take a
  • break time right it's kind of supposed
  • to be uninterrupted work time but I
  • definitely took advantage of these times
  • at my prior job to actually take breaks
  • and to kind of like in the latter half
  • of the no meetings blocks to be able to
  • get my work done and I would even like
  • on my breaks I would actually invite
  • even my co-workers to come with me I'm
  • like I'm gonna go walk around the block
  • you want to come hang out and just talk
  • or hey would you you know spend a couple
  • minutes with me in a meditation session
  • but I did find out that a lot of my
  • co-workers didn't actually view these no
  • meetings blocks in the same way a lot of
  • times they viewed it as you know this is
  • a time for me to get ahead to catch up I
  • can
  • you know get some work done I can shove
  • in a couple you know extra lines of code
  • during this time because it's uh none
  • your up to work time so I'm just gonna
  • like push through something and as a
  • manager like that does sound appealing
  • like more work more time I like I can I
  • mean more time is more work and I can
  • actually like you know see tickets
  • moving and whatnot checkboxes and but
  • what I found out is that like that's not
  • actually the case that's not the reality
  • of it and it really was more like more
  • time does not equal better work like a
  • lot of stuff that got pushed through
  • when people were stressed out and they
  • weren't taking breaks things had bugs in
  • it you know wasn't a good product there
  • was corners cut you know in a lot of
  • places and it's more or less like I
  • don't want to like push them you'd be
  • like oh well you gotta fix this like
  • little thing here you got to make a
  • better product or whatever especially
  • when I know I'm dealing with somebody
  • who's going through something that you
  • know they're feeling burnt out or
  • whatnot now I put in here meaningful
  • breaks because your body wants
  • meaningful breaks now going and getting
  • in a snack or a coffee I think you know
  • a lot of us will associate that with a
  • break which actually it is but you know
  • doing something like viewing nature
  • doing meditations some type of
  • mindfulness practice actually has been
  • shown to be more effective in sustained
  • attention then just doing other things
  • like getting a snack or a coffee and one
  • of the reasons why you should take a
  • break is that your brain is actually
  • really good at automating things and
  • it's a good thing too because like I'm
  • not constantly thinking about breathing
  • I'm just doing it you know it helps me
  • survive my body automating things but it
  • kind of can get us into these weird
  • loops of thought to where we stop
  • thinking about problems in the same way
  • and whenever new variables get inserted
  • into the problem it's very hard for that
  • loop to actually be able to handle those
  • new variables in that loop itself is a
  • little thing called flow and flow can be
  • great it actually is often romanticized
  • in our
  • stree it's often you know associated
  • with things like creativity productivity
  • people even will rearrange their
  • schedules around flow you know I want to
  • make sure all my meetings are at the end
  • of the day so I can have this unfetter
  • ated block in the middle of the day that
  • I can just get into the flow and stay in
  • the flow the flow is actually kind of a
  • weird thing because it can also cause
  • some pretty crazy human behaviors
  • casinos actually will utilize flow to be
  • able to keep people in the seats of a
  • machine which they actually use the term
  • time on device which was actually coined
  • a long time ago very before I phones
  • were a thing and you know we have to ask
  • ourselves sometimes is this the best
  • life that we're living when we're
  • getting into these flows and we're doing
  • all this stuff you know like when I'm
  • you know there's been many times where I
  • will kind of get into a really good flow
  • and then I'll kind of run off to the
  • bathroom at the last moment because I'm
  • like oh I forgot to go to the bathroom I
  • need to go real quick and then I can
  • jump back to programming and that's not
  • you know healthy if I'm starting to
  • neglect my cue my body functions just
  • because I'm like I want to write one
  • more line of code they actually there
  • was a study and they find that people
  • actually will sometimes hold their
  • breath when checking emails which is a
  • very bizarre thing to do so I actually
  • adopted I started to adopt some of the
  • mindset of some of my peers on my last
  • place where I would start skipping kind
  • of my no means box and just working
  • through them and actually it made me
  • unhappy in that unhappiness also gave me
  • a bad perspective on kind of just the
  • work that I was doing didn't allow me to
  • reflect on the times that I was able to
  • complete things and do wonderful things
  • with my group I just kind of was like
  • what's the next problem and to work
  • through this now reflection is actually
  • a pretty interesting word here as well
  • because I think that's actually what
  • brakes give you the time to do you get
  • into these loops of thought and then
  • you're able to kind of like pull
  • yourself out of them when you take a
  • break and just
  • look back at that process and say it
  • like was that good you know and if it
  • was you jump back into it
  • if it wasn't like figure out what's
  • wrong and we actually do have techniques
  • like this already who here has used the
  • rubber ducky technique so only a few of
  • you it's interesting so I'll tell you
  • about what that technique rubber ducky
  • technique is essentially you have this
  • inanimate object usually it's a rubber
  • ducky or some type of thing that has a
  • face and you put it on your desk and
  • then you when you run into a big problem
  • you essentially will ask this inanimate
  • object the problem and actually the
  • craziest thing is is that a lot of times
  • it will give you a little bit of clarity
  • and either you'll be able to see the
  • problem in a new light or you'll be able
  • to maybe even fix the problem and I
  • think what's actually happening here is
  • that you're jumping out of the flow of
  • montt here you're kind of the flow that
  • you're in the same train of thought and
  • you're able to throw this problem to
  • another side of your brain which
  • actually processes language and then be
  • able to like look at this thing and
  • verbalize it which actually is another
  • part of your brain and so you kind of
  • like are jumping out of that flow and
  • and are able to look at the problem more
  • clearly by verbalizing it to this rubber
  • ducky there's been many times where I've
  • used this technique and actually been
  • amazed at like just how well it works
  • and I would encourage you to try it out
  • there's also another good analogy so I
  • just watched a talk by this famous
  • Buddhist monk called mingzhou red
  • Porsche and he was talking about
  • emotions and meditation but I think it
  • actually works really well with flow and
  • reflection or taking a break so
  • essentially when you're in the flow of
  • programming you are kind of in the
  • middle of a river it's great you're
  • moving fast you're going down the river
  • but you run into problems
  • maybe that's legacy code or something
  • like that and you know it gets a little
  • bumpy and actually sometimes it can get
  • so bumpy that it can turn into a
  • waterfall now being in a river a
  • waterfall is you know coming up on a
  • waterfall that's a terrifying thing and
  • that can do many things to your
  • but the act of taking a break is like
  • going onto the shore and looking at the
  • river and being able to observe what is
  • going on and you know there's been
  • countless times where I've looked back
  • at like a crazy bug that you know that
  • may have caused us to not deploy into
  • production or something and looking back
  • at that and saying oh well we fixed it
  • and look at this elegant solution you
  • know this is so beautiful it's because
  • when you step back from a waterfall it's
  • a beautiful thing now I work on stuff I
  • work on stuff so you get it because
  • you've done it I work at stuff at home
  • and I work on contract work and I wanted
  • to figure out a way that I can promote a
  • healthy lifestyle for myself without
  • actually just running into the same
  • problems that I ran into you well at
  • work so I wanted to figure out a way
  • that I can actually eject from the flow
  • and now you might be thinking and
  • rightfully so that there already is
  • techniques for this a Pomodoro Pomodoro
  • is where you set a little timer and the
  • timer goes off you have this checklist
  • that you're going through but the
  • Pomodoro didn't really work for me and
  • it was only a few small problems that I
  • ran into with the Pomodoro and tell you
  • too if you're using the Pomodoro and it
  • works for you do it like I that's one
  • thing I want to encourage is like if you
  • find something that works for you just
  • stick with it and keep doing it but the
  • issues that I had was that a lot of it's
  • like very based off of static time
  • frames and you can actually adjust those
  • time frames over time but just like
  • during the day the time frames are very
  • static and it's also super focused on
  • being the most productive human being
  • and I kind of don't have the life goals
  • of being super productive I I want to be
  • a happy person
  • more than anything so that was a little
  • it wasn't too bad of a thing because
  • productivity can help with your
  • happiness but I wanted something that
  • focused on happiness so if I was into a
  • flow that was really bad I'd be able to
  • you instead of jumping out and happy
  • need to do a checklist or check back in
  • I would actually you know find doing
  • activity that made me a little bit
  • happier now my solutions is really just
  • the inverse having relative time frame
  • and this could be based off of the
  • activity that you're doing you know
  • being able to track activity and say
  • like oh well I'm really active right now
  • so that means that like I'm I'm in a
  • state of flow that you know isn't
  • necessarily bad but there's I should
  • probably jump out of this in some time
  • and then also I wanted to focus on
  • happiness now this is actually even
  • trickier because what is happiness right
  • and but one thing I've learned through
  • years of meditation is that kind of just
  • being able to observe the things that we
  • do on a day to day and being able to get
  • in touch with yourself a little bit is a
  • way to kind of put different
  • perspectives on things and to see normal
  • things or to see the activities that you
  • do in a different light that sometimes
  • you can look at it in a positive light
  • so essentially I wanted to change this
  • to something that's more like a
  • breathing exercise now I looked for
  • something out there and I think it's
  • pretty neat you know like I I can't say
  • that like everybody's probably looking
  • for the same thing I am but being an
  • engineer and we get this amazing
  • opportunity to take things that are in
  • the back of our head things that were
  • like oh this is really cool like is
  • anything out there and try to find it
  • and if we don't find it we actually have
  • the opportunity to build this so I
  • decided I was gonna build something and
  • there's a couple of decisions that I
  • made I decided to build it on the web
  • platform I am a web engineer just like I
  • would assume probably half of you are as
  • well
  • and I spend a lot of time in my browser
  • so I actually built it in a Chrome
  • extension and I wanted to inject it into
  • a point that I think is probably one of
  • the worst behaviors that I have on a web
  • browser which is opening up new tabs I
  • had I just like will open up a ton of
  • them and I feel like it's just such a
  • bad behavior that I have so I wanted to
  • inject it into a new tab page and you
  • know being from coming from a meditation
  • company I was like oh I should use
  • meditation and I was like but you know
  • what meditation actually is a pretty
  • heavy thing to do even if it is like two
  • to three minute sessions doing it you
  • know every hour and a half
  • every three hours that can be a little
  • bit heavy of a practice I mean just
  • getting myself to do five minutes a day
  • is sometimes difficult doing it multiple
  • times a day would be very very difficult
  • so I actually looked to my meditations
  • little brother mindfulness and just kind
  • of decided to do a breathing exercise
  • because breathing exercise is a very
  • light touch and I actually didn't want
  • to make it a game but it ended up
  • becoming sort of like a game because the
  • more you actually start to interact the
  • application interacts with you know the
  • activity that a user is doing the more
  • it starts to become more game-like
  • like if you're able to do something to
  • reset all your activity or if you know
  • that your activity now starts to build
  • up and and and creates this kind of like
  • you know this application like it starts
  • to behave more like a game and it was
  • very interesting and how does everybody
  • feel right now do you guys need to take
  • a break I mean I'm kind of going through
  • a cycle right now so so this is going to
  • be a breathing exercise it's pranayama
  • breathing it so it just slows down a
  • little bit and so I'm gonna be five
  • breaths so bear with me
  • so it's simple very small very small and
  • something like that
  • you know gives you time to reflect you
  • might be thinking what the hell am i
  • doing listening this talk right now
  • but it's also you know a great way to
  • kind of just like pull yourself out of
  • the flow and just like think about it
  • and and with something that lightweight
  • like it's you're not taking a break
  • really but you're also pulling yourself
  • out of a flow that you're able to think
  • about you know what you're doing so if
  • you're you know you're like oh well I
  • was really getting this stuff done I
  • want to continue doing it go for it
  • that was like what five seconds now it's
  • a little bit longer than that but
  • essentially if you're in a bad flow or
  • you're like angry at something maybe
  • this is the you know just give me that a
  • little bit of time will give you the
  • ability to like think about and be like
  • oh maybe I should go walk around the
  • block or maybe I should go go and talk
  • to you know one of my co-workers or
  • something like that take an extended
  • break so you could try this out get
  • mucho calm is where you can find the
  • link to download it and actually if
  • you're interested to see my slides or I
  • actually did write a blog post about why
  • I built get mucho it actually goes
  • through a little bit more of my story
  • you can all find find all those links
  • there but really I want to encourage you
  • like find what works for you fine you
  • know the injection point the lengths of
  • the brakes you know the type of bricks
  • that that work for you because maybe it
  • works for me doesn't work for you but I
  • think your mental health is the
  • important thing and finding what works
  • for you is great and but most
  • importantly just don't get burned out
  • thanks
  • you
  • [Applause]
  • you